Monday, November 16, 2009

Y do people keep one insisting that a little guy can take one some big guy?

i alwas see ppl saying that a 5'6 150 pound guy can take on a 6'0 200 pound guy. I dout that. I'm 5'6 150 and vary scrappy (wrestled through out high school and did martial arts for almost seven years) , but i know i cant take some 6'0 200 dued. I think that a small guy can take a big guy that is not all that good at fighting, but i think that an okay big fighter can take a good small fighter (and a great legindary small fighter can take an okay big guy). Do u think a small guy can take on a big guy? Please before answering read every thing i have to say. I know i'm going to get a lot of crap for this one. There is also one exeption for this, do you know i'm going to say?

Y do people keep one insisting that a little guy can take one some big guy?
wrestling has nothing to do for this.....jju jitsu and some other styles were built and developed for this...the principal behind it is cockyness....if you can use cockyness against someone you have a 'gun like' advantage....and if you train for years to exploit it then its true. ive seen it first hand. i can show you how to put 200 lbs pressure into breaking a guys arm then someone twice your size can use 400lbs pressure...but either way the arm will break and it only takes 10 or so lbs anyway....this works the same with defence
Reply:This is a true story, okay? Have you ever heard of Aikido?





A SMALL(I mean scary small) girl was talking about her martial arts, which just happened to be Aikido. So I also knew this HUGE (I mean really huge. Like really tall and big in both volume and muscle) Kenpo Karate guy who knew only about his own style and didn't think the little girl could beat him, and of course she took offense because he was being so cocky.


Well they sparred once, and he was down in about five seconds. It was like a blur, okay? You saw him try to punch her and she just places her palm over his fist for a second and all you see is them standing there, him laughing and her smiling. You couldn't even see it. He was still on his guard, obviously, because nothing is that easy, and all of a sudden he's on the ground behind her, and she's looking down at him with a smirk on her face.


Now I knew this guy, and he was BIG. Not to be cruel, but he was big, and he was an instructor(but had a lot to learn himself), and he was really good at what he did, but he didn't know about her style, and got his butt handed to him. So yes, if you set your mind to it, you COULD take just about anyone, despite size variations.
Reply:My Thai friend put it best: "If he gets a hold of me I am finished, but he is not going to get a hold of me"





The truth is that size is not the only factor, but only one of many. If you fight a large but slow man with great strength, but kick him in the knee and he cannot attack you, you wins?





Bruce Lee once told a friend as they walked down the beach, upon which they saw a very large bodybuilder who the friend commented on, "He is large, but is he powerful?"





Power is speed AND strength combined. And if your opponent cannot lay a hand on you, what good is his strength, obviously?





Of course you are correct, if both men are equal in size and proportional power, the larger man will probably win. But you must consider all the other factors such as style, speed, overall power....
Reply:What did Keith Hackney do against a huge fighter?





http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...





See for yourself!!!
Reply:http://youtube.com/watch?v=QkT3wphWSrk





this a fight between butterbean and genki sudo. butterbean is 400 pounds, and genki sudo is about 160 pounds.


now that's what i call a big weight difference!





the first part is kinda boring you may just want to skip the first half.
Reply:All things being equal except for size by simple physics you are correct. However, in the dynamic world it is never the case that all things are equal, or all things but one are equal. So, a smaller can take a bigger. Although, across the spectrum of sports it is certainly a statistical anomaly. In more chaotic environments the elements of finesse (speed, flexibility, target acquisition, etc...) are superior. However, the most potent thing humans possess is the mind.
Reply:There are cases where smaller people are able to beat up bigger people, but usually the smaller individual is better trained. (As example of Master Tatsuo Shimabuku in Okinawa beating up a bunch of Marines to get Karate Students in the 1950s)
Reply:I have taken people that size and bigger at 5'8 160# when I was on TEAM USA.





Now I could not beat up my cat but when I was in my prime years ago I easily took out big people. they were SLOW, PREDICTABLE, EASY TO MANIPULATE, LARGE TARGETS with LARGE EASY TO KICK KNEES!!





So Id rather fight a large guy almost any day over someone my own size or smaller. they are too wirey and slippery if they are trained as i am.





I speak from personal experience. i have put men over 6'4 to their knees with pressure points or sparring. SIZE matters when BOTH are equally trained. they were not. simple brute force is nothing without harnessing it and sculpting it to fight properly be in MA, boxing, wrestling, but some form of disciplined fighting art.
Reply:"5'6 150 pound fador vs a 6'0 200 point fador."


Same person, one heavier than the other, equal in strength and skill. That would be an interesting fight to see
Reply:Size maters, it is not the only thing that maters. I' know a few fighters around 150 pounds and less that have taken out opponents over 200 pounds. Fighters of nearly equal skill however the advantage goes to size.


If you are used to seeing martial artist who can't fight you may be hanging in the wrong circles.
Reply:You are right man. Most people are idiot, they watch too many movies. If you observed 100 fights, the bigger guy will win 99% of the time. But they always make a big deal when the little guy win that one time. They always mention Royce Gracie or Bruce Lee or someone like that, an exception, a rarities, not the norm. That is why they have weight classes, why don't they put them all together if weight doesn't matter, I tell you why because the heavyweight will wipe the floor with the lightweight, that's why lol...and the reason the big guy has an advantage because he can take the smaller man punch and kick, on the other hand the smaller man will get knock out when get hit by the bigger man...
Reply:, people sending you links of fights that happen one out of a million times. yeah Fedor the greatest fighter on earth knocks out a big fat black guy with minamil fighting , experince big deal that just proves the questioners point.


yeah if the smaller guy has simillar skill as the bigger guy , the bigger guy will win , with his sheer size , power , and reach advantage , dont listen to the B.S. , people say that because its fun too see the little guy win. people watch to many movies and think the smaller guy is the good guy , the bigger guy is the bad guy , and the little guy can win. , NO in real life you will get the crap beat outa you by some one who is much bigger than you , so people stop beliving in your little david vs. goliath fairy tales. thats why the ufc has weight classes, because if jeff monson would punch a 155 jens pulver , jens head would snap off his spine.
Reply:I would certainly rather be the big guy. It is a great advantage. But I think it is more common than people think for a smaller guy to win. I hear of it all the time. My own personal experience was when I wrestled a guy who was 3 inches taller than me and about 40 pounds heavier (mostly muscle, too). I have been used to wrestling bigger people, and just used his momentum against him to bring him to the ground. Once I put him down on his back, he was useless. It was like he was never there before and had no idea what to do. But then again, to make the others point, this is the story I remember 10 years later, not all the times I beat people smaller than me. But I think we all know the answer: A small guy can take a bigger one, but if other things are equal, he is at a great disadvantage.
Reply:Because it is perfectly true. All other things being equal (skill, speed, style, strength of chin, etc.) the big guy will win.....but a fight with two fighters of identical strengths and weaknesses is very rare. My best friend and I are a good example....I'm 5'11" and 160-165, he's about 90 pounds more than that. His strength gives him a great advantage, but if i close the difference, we fight on equal standing as his chokes are good, but his submissions are not. My buddy Jeff is 130, but I never even spar with him as I'm just not to his level and would likely be hurt.


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