yes yes mcdojo and all that bull-shido. I KNOW! lol i want to. open a REAL school some day. when i get my act together. my second degree and my kyo sa nim (that'll be a long time from now)
but i was curious. how much should a good school charge. i know that most GOOD school charge little, while the Mc'dojos are charging 1000 $ a month or MORE!
so anyone who think they have a GREAT school, step up and tell me the cost
How much should a "good" martial arts school charge?
^^^^^ LOL FriendlyAdvice....
Total McDojo Bullshido there.... If I didn't know any better I would swear you were a troll.
No need for a Kidney Transplant, use Chi.... Tai Chi is the most powerful Martial Art?! My only wish was that I was in your area, to stop in and have my Chi manipulated so that I can see the real power of Chinese Martial Arts. But then again, it probably only works during certain lunar cycles, and my shakras have to be aligned and all that...
100 to 125 bucks for that? Wow...
Seriously, in regards to your question, a "Good" place doesn't have a price range. For every 200 dollar school there is some 50 buck a month school doing it just as good if not better. A lot depends on your area, reputation, and availability.
50 to 75 bucks is pretty much the standard for most places, I think there was a study done that showed the average price of schools in the U.S. being around 100 bucks a month.
Check this out for a good read, it has a whole price breakdown that can help you out even when building a school fo your own.
http://www.bullshido.com/articles/findin...
I would say when starting out, expect to have dues around 50 bucks a month until you develop enough of a reputation as a good school and grow to the point that you can find a better dojo
Of course you have bills to pay (rent and utilities) etc, and you may have to have your costs cover that. Still expect for a good year of so that you will have to come out of your own pocket a lot when trying to build up a good school.
My Judo school: We paid 30 bucks a month, produced 13 National Champions, and Two Olympians. (both of which were in multiple Olympics) We shared dojo space with an Aikido, Jujitsu, and Uechi Ryu Karate school, you paid one price and could go to any of them as much as you wanted.
My MMA school: We have 4 professional fighters with undefeated records, 3 More pro fighters with winning records(one of which is in the IFL) and numerous Amateurs with winning records. We pay 50 bucks a month, do Muay Thai, Kickboxing, BJJ, No Gi Submission wrestling. We share space with a Shaolin Kung Fu school that also practices Wing Chun and Sanshou, in addition we have a Kali school in house as well. Again, 50 bucks and you can train whatever you want as much as you want.
Being a part of a large organization is also high overhead, as they will charge you a fair amount to be associated with them. Or will require students join up with them ( a price passed on to the student in addition to his dues). That is something to think about.
Good luck my friend.
I think there are a ton of awesome schools out there for less than 100 bucks a month. There are some awesome schools out there for more. The key is good coaches, good students, and building a reputation for success.
Reply:Usually good martial arts schools charge less than McDojos. Keep overhead low by teaching at a community center or a highschool gym if you can. This way you can pick your students by how worthy they are rather than if they can afford instruction. I'd say anywhere between 15-45$ a month is acceptable. (this changes if you're in a more expensive area than Pittsburgh) If you feel the need for belt fees, dro the belt system, and only charge once they reach blackbelt. If you belong to an association this takes away some of your freedoms, and you'll have to charge some association costs, so this will add to your cost. I personally don't belong to an association for this reason.
Reply:I'm a black belt fourth degree in Ryuko Kempo and Modern Arnis and the top student and my school. The cost of going two hours a week is around 75 dollars give or take and the school is one of the best out there. It doesn't only teach Karate but it teaches discipline and respect.
Reply:fairtex is the most famous for muay thai
and they are charging around 200 for a month, 400 for a 3 months, and less and less per month as you sign a longer contract...
that is for membership so you are allowed to go as much as you like
Reply:I am co-owner of a great school. We are relatively small. We are not a Mc Dojo. We teach Shaolin Kungfu, Bagua, Xingyi, Tai Chi - including martial applications and QiGong. Tai Chi is the most powerful martial art if you have the mental focus and discipline to learn it.
What makes our school great is the level of experience, the intensity of passion and the high integrity of the instructor. He learned all the hard arts - Tae Kwon Do, Karate, etc. when he was younger. He found that they could be mastered and taught after about 3 to 6 months, but, after that time, he still didn't feel he could defend himself in any fight he encountered. He then started in the Chinese, internal martial arts. This is where true power lies - the development and control of the internal energy - the chi. The Chinese arts will teach you to heal others as well as hurt others in self-defense. The harder arts will tear down your joints and wear down your body. The Chinese arts will build your health and longevity. The teacher is a testament to this. At age 32, he was told he would need a kidney transplant or he would die. Instead, he sought out Chinese medicine. He never did get that transplant and he is still a strong, healthy man at age 49. He was told that he could never have children. His six year old daughter will tell you that was also not true.
We have had many karate black belts come into our school. They are either looking for a higher martial art that will allow them to heal their bodies or they are looking to challenge the instructor. The ones looking to challenge have been brought to the floor within ten seconds and they then realize that all their years of study have been a waste. We have Tae Kwon Do teachers studying with us. We have students from other kungfu schools coming to us because they can receive higher level instruction. We have surgeons and nurses studing QiGong with us because they recognize that they need to be able to restore their own health and energy in order to serve and heal their patients.
If you are considering opening a school, learn martial arts that have no bounds, that will involve a lifetime of self-perfection. These are the Chinese arts.
We are located in the Midwest, northwest of Chicago. Our fees are $100/month for Tai Chi and QiGong, $120/month for kungfu. We do not have contracts. The students pay month to month. We sincerely believe that the content and level of instruction will bring the students back. We have been right. We have very little turnover in our students. The ones that leave are the mentally weak ones. Powerful martial art requires mental discipline and strength and many people are not up to the challenge. The fees would be higher if we were located in a different geographic area, such as California. The Mc Dojos will require 1 to 3 year contracts and will run you through the belt factory (where you get your belt for attendance rather than performance) because they are in business strictly to make money - the more the better. We are in business to teach people to heal themselves, to defend themselves, to heal others. Our goal is to change people lives for the better. There is not a great deal of money riches in our school but the ripple effect of our students in their lifetimes will be tremendous. That will be our reward.
Back to business. Our school has just over 50 students. We continue to grow each week. The school is 1754 square feet and our overhead expenses are about $2500 per month. Additional money is required for items purchases for retail.
If you are in the Midwest, I recommend that you visit us and talk with the teacher. He is American, trained and certified by Chinese masters and grandmasters, and willing to teach whatever his students are capable of learning.
Reply:I charge 35$ a month.
Reply:our judo school cost 5dollars a month classes are three times a week three hours long, our karate class cost 15dollars per month twice a week four hours classes with once a month weekend day training for eight hours
Reply:De;ends on the location. In someplaces less than $50/month. In other places $150 isn't unusual.
Reply:It's not about what a good martial arts dojo should charge from a business sense, and let's all face facts, dojo's are businesses whether they make a profit or not. It's about what a martial arts dojo must charge members to keep the doors open, and will the area you're in sustain that charge and membership.
You're going to have to sit down and really think about what expenses you will incur. Formulate a business plan and figure out what your financial outlook is going to be.
Do you personally want to make money off of teaching?
How much are you willing/able to invest?
What size space do you need v. what size space you can afford?
What equipment do you need to practice, and how much is that going to cost?
Does the place you rent require a certain amount of insurance coverage and how much is your policy?
How are you going to advertise and how much will it cost? Are you prepared to invest money into your dojo for the first 3 to 5 years (avg. time it takes to establish a profitable or a break-even business)?
These are very important questions to ask yourself before heading off into the great adventure. I've been going through a lot of this with my head intructor and our not-for-profit dojo (for tax purposes I "own" the business). Plus, I went through it with my acupuncture clinic. It is a lot of work, but it is worth it in the end.
Great Resource Site:
http://www.sba.gov/smallbusinessplanner/...
Reply:I take three martial arts (and yoga)
Shaolin-do, is a very good line of shaolin schools owned by grandmaster Sin Kwang The. They offer classes for shaolin kung fu, tai chi, qi gong, nei gong, etc. The monthly price for taking everything, is only about 120$ monthly for unlimited access to all weekly classes that you qualify for, always 12 minimum. The curriculum is well organized, with good teachers, and they even teach you how to apply what you learn in real life situations. You can even buy your weapons from them (well made) at a good price- depends on finishing you want. I learn fromt hem, and I loves it. They have a website with more info and a list of locations.
Capoeira
I'm part of a capoeira group that charges about 12$ per class (if pay for monthly tuition), and they are each two hours long. It is a fun class with lots of singing and dancing. I even lost 20 lbs in a month by going to 2 classes a week.
ki-aikido.
I only take this one at a rec center, but even the rec center class is very amazing. I hear that the monthly price for ki society schools are only about 120$ monthly. It's a well done martial art, and all the senseis go to seminars and instructor classes every week to improve their skills. This martial art is fun and weird. Some of the advanced students can throw people twice their size without touching them. I myself have been thrown in this manner, and it is fun and strange.
Reply:From my experience I would say the best schools charge between $50 to $80 a month. Of course that's just for adults. I couldn't say for kids or adolescents. The more successful schools Ive attended seemed to rely on contracts. Usually 6months or yearly enrollments for example. Plus like an activation fee or something. Then you can sell MA supplies too and also conduct camps and seminars for extra charge. $1000 a month is excessive. Is that a Hollywood school? WOW! Its also helpful to leave out a donation bucket. Offer free trial classes for prospective students, teach children, or bring in instructors from other locations to teach every once in awhile. On that note teach a little something maybe outside the art or the applications of the principles behind your art to other areas of life. You get out of it by what you put into it. Every whittle bit counts.
Reply:I think that it depends on what you are offering. If you run a full time school then obviously it will become your sole source of income but you will be ble to offer more classes. What you need to do is figure out exactly what you are going to offer and price it accordingly. If you only have 3 classes a week then obviously you aren't going to be able to justify the cost of a $100 a month for membership. In reality you should focus now on learning your style as best as you possibly can and worry about how much to charge your future students later.
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